That does not sound right. I've done a "trial run" of all the designs (pictures are on my blog) and did not come across anything like that for G. All the stitches that are to be twisted or twisted & crossed are purl stitches on the Wrong side.

Oops, what I wrote previously is not right. On the Wrong side, I've always had a purl stitch & a knit stitch whenever there has to be a cross.

On wrong side rows, the "traveling" stitch is purled through the back (P tbl), not a K tbl, and the other stitch is a K stitch. The P tbl stitch crosses to the left or right behind the K stitch, depending on the orientation of the fish. Can you tell us which row and stitch is giving you problems? Then we can figure out how to work those stitches so they are correct on the right side.

Tenna, could it be that you are seeing something differently on this chart than on others? That happens to me somethimes, and especially on this pattern where the right side purl sts are empty squares, which I usually think of as knit stitches. The chart looks right to me, there are twisted knit sts with purls worked in between them. Let us know when you figure it out, as I may be seeing this wrong myself.

I'm going to tink the last two rows and try reknitting...but before I do, a second query...

The double twisted stitches...are they one knit twisted and one purl twisted when they are close together, or are they both knit twisted or both purl twisted?

Might settle some confusion.

Aren't the flying fish without the line under them twisted knits crossing and the fish with the line are a twisted knit and purl crossing? Maybe I'm misunderstanding......

Chart G is all ctosses over purl stitches.

Charts A, C, and E have crosses which cross a knit stitch over a knit stitch. Done on the wrong side you are crossing two purled stitches not two knit stitches.

Other than the stitches being purled. The methodology is the same as for a right side cross.

Make sure you get the direction of the cross right.

Quelyn

Laughing...yes, Quelyn, I understand...but easier said than done. Funny, I didn't have this much trouble on the hat...

Of course, the hat didn't have but one style panel to work on, and all the crosses were "standard"...if the next stitch was a purl, you knit the next stitch, then purl the first one...and vice versa. I knew what I was dealing with...but these other cables are quite different.

I looked at my last row and found I'd done the 2x2 rib wrong on one side, so had to go back, tink and re-create, then slip the last few stitches back....you know, the right side is A LOT easier to work than the wrong side....probably because I'm flying blindly on the wrong side.

I'm not experienced with traveling twisted stitches. Just to clarify and condense all these comments, will someone describe how to execute each of the four flying fish symbols when they appear on the right side, then when they appear on the wrong side? Many thanks in advance!

Tenna, now that I see that it is chart E that you are having trouble with I think I see why. Quelyn pointed out that the symbol of a travelling twisted st with a small horizontal line under it indicates a travelling twisted knit over a purl on the right side and would work as a travelling twisted purl stitch behind a knit on the wrong side. Similarly, the symbol that shows a travelling twisted st without the small horizontal line underneath it indicates a twisted knit over a knit on the right side and a travelling twisted purl behind a purl on the wrong side. The thing is you have to watch those symbols pretty closely while knitting because some of the knit over knit or the purl behind purl actually *change* a purl to a knit on the right side or a knit to a purl on the wrong side. If you work the symbols just as they present themselves you should be okay. So when you come to two purl stitches on the wrong side that need to travel, you just need to be sure you have the correct st travel behind the other purl in the correct direction. I know, clear as mud, right? This is just one of those times when you have to really pay attention to the symbols and work them as they come, no matter what seems logical. I know, I have already had to fix some purls to knits when I came to them because I wasn't paying attention and knit them incorrectly. Hope this helps, or it could be that I don't understand the question. That always happens!

A fish flying up to the right with no line beneath is done as follows: take first stitch to back on cable needle. Knit next stitch through the back loop. Knit the stitch off the cable needle regularly.
Flying fish up to the right with a line underneath: take first stitch to back on cable neelde. Knit next stitch through the back loop. PURL stitch off of cable needle.

Flying fish pointing up and to the left without a line underneath: put first stitch on cable needle and pull to front. Knit the next stitch normally, then knit the stitch off the cable needle through the back loop. For a flying fish pointing up and to the left WITH a line underneath: put first stitch on cable needle and pull to front. PURL next stitch, then knit the stitch off the cable needle through the back loop.

This is because without a line, you knit the stitch which will be in the back and with the line, you Purl the stitch that will be in the back. With both types of fish, you are knitting through the back loop of the front stitch.

Now, on the purl side, if I am not mistaken you make the cables as follows:

FLying fish up to right with no line: take first stitch to back on cable needle. PURL next stich (because you want it to look like a knit on the public side) without twisting, as this will be the BACK stitch from the public side. Next, purl the stitch off the cable needle through the back loop, as it will be the FRONT stitch from the public side. When there IS a line underneath, take the first stitch to the back, KNIT the next stitch, because you want it to look like a purl on the public side. Then, PURL the stitch off the cable needle through the back loop, since it is the front stitch on the public side.

For flying fish pointing up to the left on the purl side without a line underneath: put first stitch on cable needle and bring towards you. PURL the next stitch through the back loop, as it will be the FRONT stitch on the public side. Then, purl the stitch off the cable needle normally, so it looks like a knit stitch on the public side. If there IS a line underneath, put first stitch on cable needle and bring towards you. PURL next stitch through the back loop, as it will be the FRONT stitch from the public side. Then, KNIT the stitch off the cable needle so that it looks like a purl stitch on the public side.

I hope that is right and I hope that it helps. I'm posting this when I'm half asleep, so forgive my mistakes if I'm wrong. I did it this way and it worked.

okay..I think I see what my problem is....
I NEED TO MAKE THIS PATTERN GRAPH ABOUT 10 X BIGGER SO THAT I CAN SEE IT! (giggle)

Those little lines under the fish just don't jump out at me, not even with the bifocals...I might have to darken the image as well.

. . . or use a different color highlighter for each fish symbol. Or do both!

What a great idea, Beverly! Thanks!

Eureka! I've been twisting all the knit stitches involved in the crossings -- as I read Julie's directions, the knit stitch that crosses behind should not be twisted, right??

Ann in Ottawa

That's right, Ann. The back stitch doesn't twist. It's just a plain knit or purl.

Actually, I have been twisting all the knit sts in the charts that call for twisted knits on the right side, even the ones that are hidden behind a twisted knit stitch. Only to remind myself that when it is continued it is twisted. This is probably just a personal preference thing and won't make a lot of difference in the finished garment.

I think I might have stumbled onto something...

When working the pattern back after working chart A, I was working the stitches as printed, just in the opposite order. Not a problem for the all knit/all purl, but DID change the way the crossed stitches present themselves....after all, on Chart G, you can't knit a twist on row 1, then a left leaner on row 2..you'll be "travelling" into the next chart eventually....ugh! I'm going to re-write chart G....

Tenna:
I have not had this problem, and I've worked all the charts. Why would you be travelling too far? If possible, could you please clarify? Thanks!

Tenna, I too have worked all of the charts and not had this problem. Maybe you are overthinking something? It does take a bit of thinking for me to work the travelling sts on the wrong side (I sometimes have to turn the work to visualize the direction it is supposed to lean in), but it is all working out. Email me if you need more help, I don't always check the comments here.